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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: OBAMA-BUSH-WAR-ETC Reply with quote

ROBBED ASKS IF I LIKE OBAMA

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DWILBTZLE:

my serious opinion about obama is this:

he might be a fine guy if he wasn't saying he wants to pull out of iraq irresposibly
and too fast

HE WAS A HARVARD COLLEGE KID WHO BECAME A PROFESSOR
AND THEN STARTED RUNNING FOR THINGS
THAT'S IT

he ran one congressional race
and lost
TWO TO ONE!
he ran one senatorial race
and won
waited two years
and ran for president
he's too young
and has too little experience
and too little loyalty to the people who voted for him to represent their state as senator
he hasn't paid any dues
especially
to be ABLE TO BE, NOW, DUMPING HIS SENATE SEAT, AFTER A HALF A DAMN TERM,
i don't respect any of the above

HE'S TOO YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED TO BE A MAYOR!

BESIDES
ANY DEMOCRAT WILL GO FOR BIGGER MOMMY GOVERNMENT
LESS PERSONAL FREEDOMS
MORE TAXES
GUN CONTROL
ABORTION
GAY MARRIAGE
GAY ADOPTION
AND WEAK
NAY STUPID COWARDLY DANGEROUS
PUSSY
FUCK FACED
PANSY ASSED
CANDY ASSED
PANTYWAISTE
MILCHTOAST
FORIGN POLICY
FUCK ALL OF THE ABOVE


but he'd still be better than hilary
disregarding any policy
(they won't be that different from each other anyway)
but for her to be brought back into the white house
along with billk
would prove americans are chumps
who don't know
or don't care
about anything
LEFTYS SCREAMING "NOTHING WAS PROVEN NEENER NEENER NEENER"
IS FALSE, FIRST OF ALL
AND
JUST GETS SICKENING
AND OLD
AND BORING, AFTER A CERTAIN POINT

IF SHE WINS
I WILL LOSE HEART FOR AMERICANS
NOT EVEN BECAUSE OF ANY BAD THING I'M ANTICIPATING SHE MIGHT DO
JUST THAT SHE SHOULD GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING THEY DID
AND PATTED ON THE BACK FOR IT


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ROBBED:
Seems like a fine candidate with good intentions at least. I'd like to see a black candidate win provided that he's strong.

I don't know man, Listen to him debate.


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DWYLBTZLE:

i have
he wants to bail on iraq
invade pakistan
and state beforehand
that he'd never ever use nuclear weapons first

he's wet behind the ears

come back to me in twenty years
IF he becomes a libertarian

oh
and he wants to meet with
and recognize
and justify
and legitimize
and talk things over with
and share his feelings with
terrorists
and nations which harbor and support
and arm terrorists

rudy wants to kill them

i want to kill them slowly


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ROBBED

I am DONE with Republicans.


then vote libertarian


Bush fucked up big time. But we didn't see it coming. We went along because we BELIEVED him. He fucking lied to us!

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DWYLBTZLE

no he didn't
and i can find you the speeches where every democrat agreed with him
all the demos voted for the war
they all said saddam had weapons
and he did
and he was able to make atom bombs
"at the drop of a hat"
those are the words of his own chief nuclear scientist

and the un said the same thing


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ROBBED:

Although I am an Ind (you are a Lib) - truthfully, it's gonna come down to a Rep or Dem again. I -in no way - will be voting Rep ...

NOT a chance. By the way ... Dems actually have quietly taken the "religious" voters from the Reps.

Debatable, yes. But look at the big picture.

R


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DWYLBTZLE:

most religious people don't want some government telling them they have to have their children get abortions without their knowledge
or telling them their ministers have to marry two guys so they can commit what the bible says is an abomination unto the lord
and most religious people don't think we have to let a hitler get the atom bomb
saddam said hitler was his biggest hero in history
the ba'athist party was based on the nazis
saddam violated the cease fire agreement
hundreds of times a year
for 13 years
saddam was building banned missiles
saddam expelled the weapons inspectors
saddam was able to make atom bombs
saddam used gas
sasddam killed one million muslims
saddam bombed isreal

just that alone
you bomb israel
ands i kill you myself
bush is a hero
he saved yer mommy's life

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ROBBED:

Do you vote Lib?

I have voted Ind for the past 4 elections! No wait ... voted for Kerry last time.


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DWYLBTZLE:

ONLY IN LOCAL ELECTIONS
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CHANCE
FOR PRES
I VOTE REBURP
I USED TO VOTE DEMONCRAT


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ROBBED:

Yeah. I know where you are going with that.

But I keep asking myself: where do we go from here? <--keep talking TDB

It's obvious that what we are doing right now isn't working.

Perhaps we should be talking about this on your forum. Good conversation. You shold copy and paste it and start a thread.

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DWYLBTZLE:

i will

what does "working" mean?
everything isn't rosy
so we Leave?

leaving too fast wouuld be a DISASTER
FOR THE WHOLE EARTH

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wish I had said that.

I agree, what demo has any experience running things and getting them done?

None Zero Zip Nada

At least Mitt and Rudy have a track record, both got things done as an executive.

Mitt is probably unelectable.

Leaves us Rudy.

I don't know.

Sorry, senate don't count in my book as the leader thing. That's a team effort.

There is no replacement for experience.

Dubya is a moderate liberal. As was Daddy. He's more like JFK and HHH from the 60's. that's how far things have gone. Don't go sour on the repubs yet, give them a chance to find a leader. There aint many left.

Reagan was the last true repub apparently in existance. He had the right stuff.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fellers ...

At this juncture in time, how in the hell could either one of you still back Bush?

DW - you claim that he didn't lie? Are you kidding me? Where the fuck are those WMD's in Iraq then? Man oh man ...

Don't get me wrong ... I fell for it too ... I BELIEVED that there were WMD after listening to his presentation(s) with the help of Powell. But now, in retrospect, I look at the big picture and realize that we have been had!

The REAL enemy is the Taliban. And whether you are Dem or Rep, you should be able to agree on that. Despite political complexities.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robbed72 wrote:
Fellers ...

At this juncture in time, how in the hell could either one of you still back Bush?

THAT'S WHAT I DON'T GET ABOUT YOU BUSH HATERS
I THINK WE BOTH JUST STATED WHY
BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT
SO YOU REALLY REALLY JUST DON'T REGISTER ANYTHING
I THINK YOU REALY DON'T EVEN REMEMBER HEARING IT


DW - you claim that he didn't lie? Are you kidding me?

UH--NO!

Where the fuck are those WMD's in Iraq then? Man oh man ...

PROVE THEY AREN'T BURRIED IN THE DESERT
PROVE THEY WEREN'T SENT TO IRAN
PROVE THEY WEREN'T SENT TO SYRIA
GO BACK AND READ WHAT I SAID ABOUT THE CHIEF NUKE SCIENTIST STATING THEY COULD MAKE ATOM BOMBS AT THE
"DROP OF A HAT"
UNQUOTE
BUT EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THERE
EXPLAIN TO ME HOW NOT FINDING ANY, MEANS BUSH LIED?
MAYBE HE WAS JUST WRONG
BUT SINCE SADDAM SAID HE HAD THEM
AND EXPELLED THE WEAPONS INSPECTORS
ONLY SOME TOTAL CRIMINAL PRICK NOSE WOULD HAVE ASSUMED OTHERWISE
TELL ME WHY HILARY DIDN'T LIE?
TELL ME HOW BILL CLINTON DIDN'T LIE
TELL ME WHEN KENNEDY DIDN'T LIE
TELL ME WHERE KERRY DIDN'T LIE

tell me how every intelligence organization on earth didn't lie
tell me how saddam DID lie
AND BUSH KNEW IT
BUT HILARY DIDN'T
AND BUSH LIED
BUT SHE DIDN'T


THEY ALL SAID THE EXACT SAME THING BUSH SAID
BUT BUSH IS AN EVIL LIAR

boy oh boy


Don't get me wrong ... I fell for it too ... I BELIEVED that there were WMD

OK THEN TELL ME HOW YOU DIDN'T LIE
IT WAS FOR OIL--RIGHT?
YOU WANTED TO GET ALL THAT OIL IN BOSNIA AND AFGHANISTAN
RIGHT?
AND ISRAEL
RIGHT?
AND AFRICA
RIGHT?
ALL THAT OIL IN ISRAEL
AND ALL THOSE MUSLIMS IN AFRICA
THAT WE HELP
BECAUSE OF ALL THE OIL WE WANNA STEAL FROM THEM
RIGHT?
And their grub worms and mud huts
you wanted the mud huts and grub worms
didn't you?
admit it
admit it
and the poor innocent shoe bomber
you killed the shoe bomber
and then tortured him
and bit off his dick
and lied about it
because you wanted to steal all the oil between his toes
right?

YOU KILLED KENNY
YOU BASTARD!

(how do you like it?) Confused


after listening to his presentation(s) with the help of Powell. But now, in retrospect, I look at the big picture and realize that we have been had!

OH GEE
DID YOU LISTEN TO HILARY'S PRESENTATION?
DID BUSH COLLECT THE INTELLIGENCE?
OR DID BUSH RECIEVE THE SAME INTELLIGENCE REPORTS
THAT HILARY
AND ALL THE CONGRESS
DID?

BUT BUSH LIED
RIGHT?


The REAL enemy is the Taliban. And whether you are Dem or Rep, you should be able to agree on that. Despite political complexities.

Rob


THE TALIBAN AND AL QAEDA
AND DEATH-CULT ISLAMISTS
YES
AND
THANKS TO BUSH
FINALLY
FOR THE FIRST TIME
WE ARE TAKING IT TO THEM
AND I SAY BLOODY HELL

BUSH SHOWS BALLS
WHEN EVERYONE ELSE WHINED
AND BLUBBERED
AND WHIMPERED LIKE LITTLE GIRLS
AND VOTED ON SEVENTEEN UN RESOLUTIONS
AND THEN WANTED MORE
AFTER THE LAST ONE WAS UNANIMOUS
AND SADDAM THUMBED HIS NOSE AT US ALL
THEY ALL BENT OVER! Evil or Very Mad

EXCEPT BUSH!

IT WAS INSANELY SHAMEFUL

IT REACHED THE LEVEL OF A GODDAMNED COMEDY ROUTINE

BUSH REDEEMED THE CREDIBILITY
AND THE DIGNITY
AND THE SAND
OF CIVILIZATION

HE'S PHENOMINAL
HE EVEN PUTS TRUMAN'S DICK IN THE DIRT, AS FAR AS GIVING NOT A
FIG TO POLITICS AND SCREAMING HYSTERICAL INSANE WHINERS

HE AND CHURCHIL ARE RIGHT UP THERE TOGETHER

YOU WERE GONNA GET A WAR
ONLY WITH SADDAM SITTING ON SAUDI ARABIA WITH NUKES

UNLESS YOU SPEAK TO THAT
YOU ARE TOO ONE SIDED
YER NOT FAIR
YER NOT REASONABLE

YOU HAVE A WAR
RIGHT NOW
THREE WARS
LIKE IT OR NOT

NOW BE A QUISLING
BE A TRAITOR
BE A DEFEATIST
OR BE A GODDAMNED WARRIOR

SPEAK TO THAT WITHOUT JUST SCREAMING YOU DON'T LIKE WAR

WE WILL HAVE WAR
FOR GENERATIONS WITH THESE INSANE DEATH CULT PUKES
THEY ARE DEDICATED TO OUR DEMISE
WAKE UP
THEY ARE AGENTS OF SATAN
THEY ARE AGENTS OF HELL
THEY ARE A DISEASE BENT ON ALL HUMAN DESTRUCTION
EVEN IF THEY INDIVIDUALLY DON'T SAY OR EVEN KNOW IT
WE STRUGGLE NOT WITH FLESH AND BLOOD
BUT WITH POWERS AND PRINCIPALITIES
AND SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES

YOU WILL GET A WAR IF YOU LEAVE

ONLY IT WILL BE A WORLDWIDE GOTTERDAMERUNG CONFLAGRATION NOT SEEN SINCE WORLD WAR TWO
ONLY WAY WORSE

PAKISTAN WILL BE OVERTHROWN
THE TALIBAN AND AL QAEDA WILL HAVE NUKES
AND WITH THE MISSILE TECH BILL CINTON GAVE THEM
THRU RED CHINA
BECAUSE THEY GAVE IT TO N KOREA
AND NORTH KOREA SOLD IT TO PAKISTAN
YOU
AND ME
AND
EVERYONE YOU KNOW
WILL BE BURNED IN NUCLEAR FIRE

THEN RADIATION
DISEASE
AND NUCLEAR WINTER WILL DESTROY ALL LIFE ON EARTH
NOW YOU TELL ME WHY BUSH LIED SO DAMN HARD JUST TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN
MEAN OLD BASTARD MAD COW
BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN
SINCERE
BRAVE BALLSY
BUSH
YOU TELL ME

SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THAT HAPPEN
LEAVE AND WE HAVE TO GO RIGHT BACK
MONTHS LATER
NO MATER WHO IS PRESIDENT

SPEAK TO THAT

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DW:

Until you can condense yur thoughts (mnay which are vadid by the way) ... you will have MULTITUDES that don't understand YER position.

Let's try this (you like gunz right?)

BULLET POINT yer points Very Happy

'Til then Confused

L8

R
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robbed72 wrote:
DW:

Until you can condense yur thoughts (mnay which are vadid by the way) ... you will have MULTITUDES that don't understand YER position.

Let's try this (you like gunz right?)

BULLET POINT yer points Very Happy

'Til then Confused

L8

R


bullet points:

If Bush lied, so did everyone else in the world. So who you gonna back in his stead?
Bush had the same intelligence GIVEN TO HIM that everyone else did. That intelligence came from the very same committee that John Kerry sat on (but never showed up for work). If there was any lying going on, I'd say it was Kerry and his committee that did it and then tried to pin it on Bush.
A lack of finding something does not prove a lie. that's fautly deduction.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robbed72 wrote:
DW:

Until you can condense yur thoughts (mnay which are vadid by the way) ... you will have MULTITUDES that don't understand YER position.

Let's try this (you like gunz right?)

BULLET POINT yer points Very Happy

'Til then Confused

L8

R


it's all there
in english

i didn't stutter
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geezer,
about reagan...

I think reagan was the last of the mohicans
maybe
party doesn't matter in what i'm talking about, folks
truman was demo--with low popularity points at the time
really low
as low as any president in history

churchill was some british party
he coulda been in the dire raving looney party
or a pot party
or a tupperware party
for all that matters
for all i care

kennedy was demo
(who cut taxes--go figure THAT one
now THAT takes real balls!)

what people remember--later, looking back
about kennedy
and truman
and churchill
and reagan
is
they kept their heads while everyone else was loosing theirs
while the defeatist wailing peanut gallery screamed bloody murder
they stood up to tyrants
and dictators
and evil
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and pirates
and prick noses

the fearful of the Earth!

and we can't be selling demo kennedy short
just because of his party
not in what I'M talking about

he faced down kruschev
and castro
and the mafia
and the cia
and pepsi cola-with their lawyer, nixon
all at the same time

kennedy and reagan were, BOTH, two tough irish punk bastards
in twenty years, if obambi grows some hair down there
and turns into one tough Black Irish punk bastard
i will vote for him twice

maybe he should tone UP the hearty swarthy african aspect
rather than tone it DOWN
maybe he should hang out with some gangster rappers
(real ones)
and black panthers
for twenty years
and when he looks a little scarier to me
and al qaeda
then he'll be presidential shit
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TRUMAN WAS DEMO
AND HE FACED DOWN JOE STALIN
AND CHINA
AND MCCARTHY
AND EVEN MACARTHUR
AND MCARTHUR WAS ONE TOUGH SON OF ARTHUR MACARTHUR

MACARTHUR WAS LIKE THE GUY CHAINED TO THE HOOD IN MAD MAX
YOU UNLOCK THE CHAIN AND HE'LL SCREAM

"ME GO INNNNNN!"
Laughing

(GOD! I love that guy!)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Dwylbtzle"][quote="Robbed72"]DW:

Until you can condense yur thoughts (mnay which are vadid by the way) ... you will have MULTITUDES that don't understand YER position.

Let's try this (you like gunz right?)

BULLET POINT yer points Very Happy

'Til then Confused

L8

R[/quote]

it's all there
in english

i didn't stutter[/quote]

Laughing

Ok. Bush lied. And everyone else did too. Doesn't take a way from the fact that the president's approval rating right now is like at 15%. Now I know where at least 3 people are who comprise that 15% ... Laughing

That speaks VOLUMES 85% of the rest of the country thinks otherwise. That he's NOT doing a good job handling the war or domestic policy for that matter. I gave him his fair chance before I became vocal about my displeasure.

Now - I say - it's time to MOVE ON. Very Happy YEP!

Good to see that a thread has generated a bit of activity.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the subject was when, if, and why bush lied
he didn't

i never said anyone's handled the war correctly
but it's getting handled better now
and to handle it worse by trying to find some reason to be shameful pukes
and just bug out
wouldn't help matters much
so i can't vote for anyone who wants to heap shame on the whole country
and all our ancestors
and make a shit world for our descendants
sorry
-can't vote for
that includes ron paul
fuck him

why don't the demos wise up?
they bailed on lieberman--because he spoke the truth
and they don't have any truth in them
so he ran as an independant
and won without the demos
didn't he?
why don't they run someone who isn't so spoiled and self absorbed
and petulant
that they can ACTUALLY see a glaring reality?

i'd BE ABLE to vote for lieberman, at least
BUT THEY AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO RUN SOMEONE WITH BALLS LIKE THAT
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now, y'all gotta pay close attention to this exact point, here:
ok?
this will explain everything:

on Palomar, they have a telescope that makes something 10,000 miles away look like it's four feet away
and, orbiting in outer space, they have the Hubble,
which is 1000 times more powerful than that

with me so far?
ok, now follow:

if you put the Palomar telescope INSIDE the Hubble
you STILL wouldn't be able to see the interest i'd have in hearing anyone
wail about how much someone thought WWII was icky-poo
ok?

and about the same for THIS shit
got me? Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and while we're at it
if bush and his whole vast
perfect infallable
superhuman
superfrikkin natural lying conspiracy machine
lied about the wmds
and KNEW they were lying
and thus MUSTA known they would eventually be found to be lying...

then why didn't they just LIE
one more time
and claim they had found them? Shocked
huh? Confused
i mean
we hear they shot missiles disguised as planes into our own pentagon
and wtc towers
and disguised the wreckage as plane parts
Confused Rolling Eyes
right?
and got away with all those lies
right?
so
how THE FUCK did they forget to plant some wreckage and claim they were shatered nuke weapons
or something?
how hard could THAT be?

i mean. they are just SOOO damn proficient when we're supposed to believe they are pulling off all these insanely intricate machiavellian conspiracies
but they can't pull off a simple three week counter-insurgency operation?
(like I guess some Democrat would have-right?)
or come up with one more simple planted wmd lie?

someone explain THIS
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if someone wants to talk about how badly they botched the war
AFTER they got in
then i can keep up with you, there:

they shoulda gone in with more troops

they shouldn't have disbanded the iraqi army
because they just sent millions of armed, trained, unemployed people
potentially into the insurgency

i have tons of issues with things like armor and equipment

and how they take care of wounded people coming back

they are paying ratheon millions to come up with something that stops rocket propelled grenades
that MIGHT be ready by 2014, or something
while israel has a system that works 100% of the time
right now Shocked

REALLY stupid shit like that

but bush didn't lie about anything
and he was right about stopping saddam exactly when he did
except maybe
it shoulda been done years ago
like maybe back in 1991
when we were already there, the first time
i mean, what the hell did daddy bush think was gonna happen?
he sure didn't support the kurds and the shi'ite insurgency
after we left
he called for them to rise up
and then left saddam with his helicopters flying
and bailed to let them be crushed
(i never liked that daddy bush
but i don't judge someone by who their father was)

and i'm just gonna have to hear someone's ideas on how they would do it better
if you are gonna gain any credibility with me
not about how someone will dump the whole thing faster than someone else will

that's all i hear from the demos and ron paul

that whole side thinks that if they scream enough false, cornball shit about lies, and impossibly rediculous conspiracies
they can just slink off
and
that can maybe make the voice screaming:
Surprised "that's world-record/scale chumpy"
go away

good luck with that

but hear this voice:
if you get what you say you want
you'll wish you hadn't


the demos
wanna hold on to that pretty pastel pink unicorn dream that everything will just be fine
as soon as some demo wins the presidency
but it won't
either they will realize they can't bail, either
or they bail
and the whole area goes up in flames immediately
and the rest of the world real fast


think about that
and quit feeding me stuff about lies and conspiracies
(pissing on my leg)
and telling me it's raining
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